00:00:08.46  >> Okay.
00:00:09.02  So, our top priorities to include in the budget are child care, a continuing first-semester orientation program, and a crisis hotline for stressed-out students.
00:00:18.07  >> Ha!
00:00:18.56  What a bunch of bleeding hearts we are.
00:00:20.63  Suzanne, we are really doing these students a disservice by implying that someone is always going to be there to cater to their needs.
00:00:26.52  And I'm willing to be that everybody around this table, not one of us had the special kind of treatment that we're planning on providing.
00:00:32.89  >> Dale, it sounds like you think that we're encouraging our students to be overly reliant on institutions instead of encouraging them to be self-reliant.
00:00:40.42  Do I understand you correctly?
00:00:41.30  Is that what you're saying?
00:00:41.81  >> That's exactly what I think.
00:00:42.76  And I'll tell you, we're not doing them any service in the long run.
00:00:45.76  >> Well, you make a very valid point.
00:00:47.15  What do the rest of you think?
00:00:48.62  >> I don't disagree, Dale.
00:00:50.13  It is a fine line between helping enough and helping too much.
00:00:53.52  For me, the issue is to what extent students will be willing to take initiative and take responsibility for their own actions.
00:00:59.75  >> I'm glad to hear that.
00:01:01.31  >> For example, I see a difference between expecting the university to provide you a babysitter whenever you want one and making child care available during class times.
00:01:10.25  Especially when that child care involves some sort of payback commitment from the student in terms of time or money.
00:01:16.31  I guess I'm agree with Dale to the extent that students do need to take some responsibility for their actions.